But the people who count are the ones who did the crime. Linda Kasabian, the one member of the Manson Family who escaped jail, now lives a quiet life in in Tacoma, Washington. But none of us can say what Tex's life might have been if he had stayed in Texas instead of going out to trippin Cal and soaked his brain in bella donna. She kept a lookout during the Tate-LaBianca murders, but didn't participate. She married, divorced, remarried, and gave birth to a daughter in 1968. Now taken into considering the location this apparently took place. :). It doesn't need to be personal. No one knows why. She had married a man named Robert Kasabian and given him a daughter with a second child on the way. Mary Brunner: DL# S420794Bruce Davis: DL# 3553216 (Tennessee)Lynette Fromme DL# S145574Linda Kasabian no license is mentioned.Diane Lake DL# 3507331 (temp)Kathern Lutesinger DL# P148000 (Missouri)Charles Manson DL# 2516372Charles Montgomery (aka Watson) DL# A162088Nancy Pitman DL# S4679845 (temp)Leslie Van Houten DL# DD436893 (temp)It only matters in my opinion because it explains why she was chosen. At the age of 16, Drouin dropped out of high school and got married, and soon after, divorced. So you are relying on two witnesses that are diametrically opposed as to this event. I liked your book and you- but don't agree with your conclusions :). Nothing devious. Linda Kasabian grew up in New England, dropped out of high school and drifted around the country. Truancy? Now that said I happen to agree with this opinion: "The mission, ladies and gentlemen, the mission of these defendants on both nights, was murder. Pictured: Kasabian running errands on Tuesday View gallery The. In the most beloved profession in America we are trained to disregard the Parry Mason notion of courtrooms: someone actually out and out lying on the witness stand. Bugliosi said. But what happened before and after that. What other ID would she have used? The big question: How do WE know she wouldn't kill? ITS REALLY TOO BAD!! I for one would never accuse Bugliosi of improperly 'coaching' a witness or eliciting perjured testimony. There were a number of details like this that came out, even worse ones during the Watson trial. Kasabian had only been a member of the Family for six weeks when the Tate murders took place. Manson Mythos saidWhile the attorneys dropped the defense on the ground's they didn't want their clients to commit suicide, Fitzgerald at least voiced the opinion it would have been suicide for Manson as well, as it would have only proven Bugliosi's case rightWhere does he say that and how would it prove suicide for Charlie ? Linda then traveled to Boston, where she married a. Her testimony eventually led to the convictions of Manson, Watson, Atkins, Krenwinkel, and Van Houten. Before Tate-LaBianca She attended Milford High School in Milford, New Hampshire in 1964 and 1965. fn. It's always the Charlie supporters who make those statements and spread those stories about other motives. I draw a line at the trials. As these are total strangers- I feel pity only for those who actually deserve it. I've never thought of it like that. She admits to stabbing Rosemary in it mate ! Thank you very much, Lynn. When you get to the heart of it, it is Bugliosi who says the motive was HS (+ megalomania+ anti-social hatred of the establishment+ lust for murder depending on when). Debra Tate Disgraces the Words Victims' Advocate, Manson Blog Reveals True Identity and Fate of Ruby Pearl. Linda Kasabian was born Linda Drouin on June 21, 1949 in Biddeford, Maine. And Ruthann ended up turning out ok- even more of a reason phrases like "Dark to Light" apply- if you have to use them at all.I admit I am a little surprised people will defend Linda Kasabian so fiercely. She chose to be the way she was and then she eventually became the same kind of parent that Diane and Ruth had.So Sad. I ended up running away at 18 and skipped the country. Those who became 18 before 1980. Let's save our sympathies only for those He deems good. Robert Hendrickson said"robbery" gone BAD.Well Dah ! So that is another mystery.All in all, I'd say what he could/should have been charged with doesn't add up to a life in prison and being America's poster boy for evil.I'll also say I don't think the case was handled properly and that he was used by various people for political and personal ambitions and while he is no angel, I don't think he is all bad and find him to be far smarter than the average idiot you deal with on a day to day basis. And they all had a modicum of help. Linda Darlene Drouin was born on 21 June 1949, in Biddeford, Maine, US as the eldest child of Rosaire Drouin and Joyce Taylor. Do I mean the jury should disregard it? DEBUNKING THE BUNK PART 1: A Look at Joel Rostau, Thoughts on the LaBiancas and the motive on August 10th, Benedict Canyon Acoustics and Bugliosi's Timeline, The Law: Conspiracy to Commit Murder, Felony Murder and One for the Colonel. The penalty phase is, according to Charlie {in his "arresting Bobby wrongly" statement at trial}, Steve Grogan {his testimony} and Susan Atkins {"The myth of HS"} what the defence would have been.Overlooking the fact that Atkins sold him out pretty fastShe initially told her cell mates of her involvement in TLB and Charlie's leadership never envisioning they'd tell the authorities. A trip to see the SS might have broken his case apart and make another witness (DeCarlo) useless. When he then asks "do you mean 3 a.m. or midnight" he's leading the witness. Manson Mythos saidAbout the license, it had to be expiredNo it didn't.Bugliosi said that was the ONLY reason she was "picked"Exactly. So if I appear to be defending her or anyone else that is generally presented as unsavoury, it's because I think there should be a balance to anyone spoken about.Even Charles Watson. https://web.archive.org/web/20021014185811/http://www.mansonmurders.com/kasabianreport.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20001003172732/http://www.mansonmurders.com/kasabian.htmlBasically lovely Little Tonya ended up in State Prison for drugs. One defense attorney after the next, tried unsuccessfully to punch holes through her testimony. He wasn't even charged with shooting Lotsapoppa, but we all know it happened..The question: what if she was ASKED?She wasn't asked, she was told. We do not know why any of them were picked. Perhaps soemthing more general. Needless to say, they knew the defense would try and destroy her. If you read this post and think Linda is someone to pity and use positive phrases for, or defend- that is cool as the other side of the pillow. Defence ? That's the point lol. She later remarried and had a daughter; however, the marriage was not stable again. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) Murders. Everyone can form their own about Linda. He said something to the effect that Charlie had a very strong case and that there was pretty much no evidence against him. But now and again one does sort of let something out that is interesting. Thing is though, it can be hard to spot or be conclusive at the time because it feels kind of heavy to assume a child or teenager is on the road to ruin due to things they might have done or be doing that haven't yet bloomed into something that everyone holds their heads in their hands about.That job as an aide at a nursing home sounds so kind and sweet..Perhaps I'm cynical, and she found joy sponge bathing a freshly soiled seniorI don't think you were being any more cynical than anyone else gets when discussing Mrs K and I don't think she was a nursing home aide out of some strong desire to replicate Florence Nightingale. The reporters ? In HS Bugliosi more or less says the same thing. In March of 1970, Kasabian gave birth to a baby boy, which she named Angel. He even admitted in his book that it was he and he alone that surmised it. I give Linda credit for one thing. She droved straight to New Mexico, where her husband was living with another woman. What if she wouldn't have testified? Linda Kasahbian supports herself on welfare,for having illegal kids the state has to support---we need less Linda Kasabians!! When I've told people of how I came to be living there and what I experienced in those 4 years and how I got away, people think it's ever such a dramatic tale. Today Mrs. Kasabian was granted a two-week delay before entering a plea in the Tate murder case to enable her attorney to study the grand jury transcript. WOW! Charles Manson and the Killing of Shorty Shea, Charles Manson Behind Bars: The Crazy Antics and Amazing Revelations Of America's Icon of Evil, Charles Manson: The Man Who Killed the 60s, Charles Manson. Linda least of all- the only price she paid at all was karma. In that case, Helter Skelter, even to this day, still STIMULATES the economy which is STILL a good thing, in a capitalist society. ]THE COURT: Overruled. Because the logical conclusion of your implication is that he was obsessed with "getting" Charles Manson, even to the extent that he would frame an innocent man and see him rot in jail for life. Back then nashua was a small town in nh.Also i personally talked to someone who picked her up hitchiking in nh the 70s.He said she was pregnant must of been her second child. Bill Kurtis can make it sound like the best name ever. Because there was no doubt that I knew that what was ever going to happen here was not going to be good. In a 2009 docu-drama by Cineflex, she elaborated her story for the first time in detail. It is an interesting piece especially given the Odyssey piece. There would have been no need to stab Rosemary LaBianca so many times. The people I have met who support Charlie cant stand her. Over here in Englang, 'moving the goal posts' can mean altering the rules/argument as and when one feels like it. Even Susan who, if Bobby and Tex are to be believed, never killed anyone by her hand, was involved in murder directly.Secondly, a trip to see the Straight Satans directly after leaving LaBianca could have destroyed the entire Helter Skelter cover storyYou have two interesting obsessions running side by side, that HS is a fiction and that the Straight Satans were somehow involved in all this.Bugliosi would want that covered up and it was easy for him to do soIn various guises, you've implied that Bugliosi was covering up something he knew to be true. She stole money from her friends to impress people she knew for days. At the front door, she ran into a stabbed and beaten Wojciech Frykowski. She got lucky Atkins folded, leaving her the only game in town and she skated. And nothing she said could ever be used against her co~defendants.and Leslie lined up right behind her to do the same by puttin' on the crazy brainwashed actYou frequently say this even though it is frequently pointed out to you that this simply isn't the case and demonstrably so. Afterwhich, Manson dropped Linda, Sadie, and Clem off at a Venice Beach apartment complex. She was a witness for the District Attorney, Vincent Bugliosi. I gotta disagree with you on that one. Secondlyhow did the jury know she was different? The DA's office had to get old charges from Inyo refiled to keep Charlie inside. Or even implicate him.Based upon what ex-members recently revealed about the Hinman murder and DeCarlo, the maker who interviewed these people believes that DeCarlo should and hopefully WILL be charged with conspiracy to commit murder. "Oh yes, Mr Pritchard has been convicted in the past of robbing banks, but he lives at home and looks after his elderly and disabled Mother and his wayward sister's troubled child..". But in saying that, he'd never wanted Susan in the first place {"we don't give that gal anything !"}. Same with Shea. She said Manson supposedly announced it was "time" (seemingly out of the blue) for Helter Skelter. LISTEN Carefully, Dreath is telling US the LaBianca house was a "robbery" gone BAD.Well Dah ! How do you know it would have been a black service member? Early Life When she started testifying, immunity was not a foregone conclusion. The Manson family threatened to kill her if she testified. With her marriage falling apart, she decided to move in with the family on their dilapidated Spahn's Ranch. Neither Susan nor Linda were major league contributors to HS in the grand scheme of things.I guess we'll never know, but there are many people wondering how different things would have been had Pat never daubed "Healter Skelter" on the LaBianca's fridge.There are several occasions where he brings out testimony he doesn't need for a conviction just to make her look goodThere are more than several occasions when Kanarek brings out testimony he doesn't really need just to make her look bad. Not even in her Grand Jury testimony did Atkins say anythingAtkins was never pushed on it. document.write(''); AND isn't it about time (over 40 years) for the WHOLE truth and nothing but the TRUTH to leak out from the CRACKS in man's so-called civilization. It would be like cutting Hitler slack.Still, I have seen in my life so so many others that I considered good folk pour a bunch of chemicals in their brains and take paths of destruction and violence. 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